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it's not going to be al-qaeda da. it could be a leftwing group. wicker's from mississippi. i'm going to show you later in the program the list of terrorist attacks and leftwing groups have a tremendous amount. they don't kill anyone, it's mainly fires or liberation front and animal liberation front. they've killed literally zero people but there are fires terrorist acts,ette et cetera. you don't want to leave anything out. to target the senator out of nowhere? that doesn't make sense. i feel if it's connected it's unlikely to be a foreign-based attack. >> i think it's unfortunate that police have -- it's almost, you know comes out of a script, a script that you'd expect in a movie, except they're saying it here in real life, speaking on condition of anonymity or the police chief in boston speaking to the record, and obama to some extent that we're going to find you hunt you down and get you. like, all that does is fuel the conversation that we're having now to a greater extend, like i just wish we lived in a country where it was ok to say obviously we're investigating this
it's not going to be al-qaeda da. it could be a leftwing group. wicker's from mississippi. i'm going to show you later in the program the list of terrorist attacks and leftwing groups have a tremendous amount. they don't kill anyone, it's mainly fires or liberation front and animal liberation front. they've killed literally zero people but there are fires terrorist acts,ette et cetera. you don't want to leave anything out. to target the senator out of nowhere? that doesn't make sense. i feel if...
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>> i think lindsey graham was getting more information about his ties to al-qaeda. and on his hospital bed yesterday he said they are religious, but they don't have ties to any larger network. >> stephanie: yeah. exactly. that's what the fbi was saying initially. can i just say one of my favorite things is -- is the description -- because, you know, he was mad initially what he was tweeting was that you killed my brother. i think he actually killed his brother. >> that was a fake twitter account. >> stephanie: oh, okay. but, you know, that he was -- but i'm just saying that was -- i thought i was the only one that thought that that it was a little road runner he had explosives and he was run over by his brother and dragged like 30 feet and it just was -- i don't know, somebody said he was holding an acme receipt, and i don't think so. my buddy howard kurz wrote the police and this is what i said about the plitttt -- chuck grassley rushed in to say he wants to exam immigration reform particularly in light of what happened last week in boston. this doesn't lend itself
>> i think lindsey graham was getting more information about his ties to al-qaeda. and on his hospital bed yesterday he said they are religious, but they don't have ties to any larger network. >> stephanie: yeah. exactly. that's what the fbi was saying initially. can i just say one of my favorite things is -- is the description -- because, you know, he was mad initially what he was tweeting was that you killed my brother. i think he actually killed his brother. >> that was a...
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it could end up being someone else but it has all the indicators of being an al qaeda or al qaeda affiliated attack. >> reporter: for rebecca roach and all the runners who ran with full hearts and their loved ones who cheered them on it's so incomprehensible and so wrong. >> why? i don't understand. i can't find reason in it. >> reporter: so it was a day of heart break here in hostage and of heroism. bruce mendelson who is an army veteran was on the scene and responded. you were right at the finish line? >> i was in a post-race party at 667 boylston street on the third floor of a building. the first explosion knocked me off a couch on to the ground. i was with my brother who had just finished the marathon. i yelled at him to get all the people back away from the windows. and -- >> and you went down. >> he got people to the back of the building. i ran downstairs and came out on to a sheet of glass shards. there were blood smears on the sidewalk there were a lot of people with grievous lower body injuries. >> what did you do? >> i rendered what assistance i could. i helped the boston pd establ
it could end up being someone else but it has all the indicators of being an al qaeda or al qaeda affiliated attack. >> reporter: for rebecca roach and all the runners who ran with full hearts and their loved ones who cheered them on it's so incomprehensible and so wrong. >> why? i don't understand. i can't find reason in it. >> reporter: so it was a day of heart break here in hostage and of heroism. bruce mendelson who is an army veteran was on the scene and responded. you...
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i was really annoyed at peter king who came out right away and said it looks like al-qaeda to me. who knows, right? we remember atlanta. we remember oklahoma city. what are the police saying in boston right now. >> they're not saying a lot. they kept denying they had a person of interest all day yesterday. police commissioner, ed davis explicitly said we do not have a suspect at brigham and women's hospital while there were cops surrounding the hospital and there was an armored vehicle outside. people could see the cops talking to somebody. so, you know, part of the thinking now this 20-year-old saudi national's apartment was searched in revere yesterday and several bags of stuff was taken away. some of the thinks was they weren't sure if he was involved. they wanted to investigate. they didn't want to tip anyone off. so they didn't give the full story. we still don't know if this guy has any connection. tweeted out about 3:00 this morning that the police told him the guy had nothing to do with it. there is a press report at 9:30. number one is based purely on math chances are the
i was really annoyed at peter king who came out right away and said it looks like al-qaeda to me. who knows, right? we remember atlanta. we remember oklahoma city. what are the police saying in boston right now. >> they're not saying a lot. they kept denying they had a person of interest all day yesterday. police commissioner, ed davis explicitly said we do not have a suspect at brigham and women's hospital while there were cops surrounding the hospital and there was an armored vehicle...
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whether it's al qaeda or domestic. it could be a domestic. i mentioned in the lead that you have all of these coincidental attacks, oklahoma city, columbine, virginia tech, and waco. in the month of april. you know, who knows. i don't want to speculate tonight. >> again, somebody mentioned. >> bill: go ahead. >> somebody mentioned, bill, you know, that the middle east m.o. with these kind of bombs is you don't wait 10 seconds. the bombs went off 10 seconds apart. you usually wait in the middle east until the first responders show um and then the second car bomb goes off to totally maximize the carnage. on the other hand there was third bomb that was gablegd disabled by the police so maybe that was what they were planning on inflicting maximum damage. >> bill: whoever did this planned it out it could have been domestic or foreign terrorism. final question for you. people are looking for reasons here, but both you and i know, because we have both been reporting for decades, there aren't reasons for a lot of this stuff. it just happens. and, you
whether it's al qaeda or domestic. it could be a domestic. i mentioned in the lead that you have all of these coincidental attacks, oklahoma city, columbine, virginia tech, and waco. in the month of april. you know, who knows. i don't want to speculate tonight. >> again, somebody mentioned. >> bill: go ahead. >> somebody mentioned, bill, you know, that the middle east m.o. with these kind of bombs is you don't wait 10 seconds. the bombs went off 10 seconds apart. you usually...
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it's difficult for al qaeda to launch an attack from overseas. they are going to come from people off the radar screen which means it's harder to find out who they are that requires more intensive investigation and requires local police to be more involved and perhaps the fbi should consider adjusting its regulation to keep a file on someone open. did they tell the boston police about this? was there any way -- any cast o capacity to follow-up on the case when information became available on the older brother? there has to be less stovepiping and take into account the new nature of the war. >> there are reports today, for example, surfacing to this whole point about what we know and what we don't know. the fbi was contacted multiple times about tamerlan tsarnaev. our own pete williams says the fbi tells him they were contacted just once in 2011. they checked him out. they didn't find anything. what have you been able to find out about that when 10you were briefed? >> we are getting conflicting reports. on the senate side they were told by deputy
it's difficult for al qaeda to launch an attack from overseas. they are going to come from people off the radar screen which means it's harder to find out who they are that requires more intensive investigation and requires local police to be more involved and perhaps the fbi should consider adjusting its regulation to keep a file on someone open. did they tell the boston police about this? was there any way -- any cast o capacity to follow-up on the case when information became available on...
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this would be the al qaeda in the caucasus branch of al qaeda. we even know that the number two was there in 1997. there are several groups in chechnya and dagestan that have been deemed terrorists organizations by the united states and there are laws and insurgencies in those countries in those republics that resulted in so many bad attacks on russia we should have a certain amount of sympathy for what russia has gone through as a result of al qaeda's orientated attacks by the islamic extremists groups. >> it does seem that like jose padilla there might have been anger there about chechnya and using that as a rationale for joining jihady movements. having said that. one of the things that gets pointed out continuously is that if you are chechen, your beef is with russia and not the united states. >> yes but to a point. remember, chris, it's not just the chechnya conflict that was involved here. dagestan is really the far more important place to look. let's keep chechnya to the side. it's dagestan where he went. he probably was not just visiting
this would be the al qaeda in the caucasus branch of al qaeda. we even know that the number two was there in 1997. there are several groups in chechnya and dagestan that have been deemed terrorists organizations by the united states and there are laws and insurgencies in those countries in those republics that resulted in so many bad attacks on russia we should have a certain amount of sympathy for what russia has gone through as a result of al qaeda's orientated attacks by the islamic...
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i know they fought alongside al qaeda in afghanistan but not here in this country. again, i think we do have to look carefully to make sure there are no other coconspirators or accomplices and find out what happened on the trip to russia last year. >> congressman, do you have any information about possible travel outside the country by dzhokhar? we know about his older brother traveling to russia in 2012. do you know anything about any other travel by the older brother or any travel outside the country by the man that authorities are looking for so intensely right now? >> jake, i'm not aware of any of that travel and i don't know of anyone who is on to that. i know that is one thing we looked at carefully. my understanding is as of now there is no evidence that the younger brother has traveled outside the country at all. >> obviously events are unfolding and not everything on the internet is necessarily accurate but on the older brother's purported youtube account, we don't know if we're 100% sure it is his but on what is believed to be his youtube account he posted
i know they fought alongside al qaeda in afghanistan but not here in this country. again, i think we do have to look carefully to make sure there are no other coconspirators or accomplices and find out what happened on the trip to russia last year. >> congressman, do you have any information about possible travel outside the country by dzhokhar? we know about his older brother traveling to russia in 2012. do you know anything about any other travel by the older brother or any travel...
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al qaeda and an islamic jihadist extended the battlefield to the united states. in this war we're in, that's what makes it unique and different. is that the battlefield has extended to the united states. therefore, to me, a soldier in that war or an enemy combatant in that war is, in fact, an enemy combatant, not just an ordinary criminal if he's captured here, even if he's captured here in the united states. again i want to emphasize he would be getting a civilian trial and none of the evidence that's brought out in this interrogation could be used against him. it's solely for the purpose of intelligence. >> this issue of radicalization in the islamic community, does this mean anybody with radical views should be viewed as an enemy combatant as a threat? because there seems to be a fine line here. so he got radicalized. the brother got radicalized. but if there's no connection to some sort of organized terrorist organization, do you treat them as an enemy combatant and do you worry that then suddenly we're going to treat any potential radical, somebody who's got
al qaeda and an islamic jihadist extended the battlefield to the united states. in this war we're in, that's what makes it unique and different. is that the battlefield has extended to the united states. therefore, to me, a soldier in that war or an enemy combatant in that war is, in fact, an enemy combatant, not just an ordinary criminal if he's captured here, even if he's captured here in the united states. again i want to emphasize he would be getting a civilian trial and none of the...
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that's why al qaeda has now morphed and in many ways, al qaeda is more dangerous than it was prior to 9/11 because they've metastasized into mini groups and they also have supporters here in the u.s., some of whom they work with over the internet, others are self-radicalized. the times square bomber in 2010. the subway bomber in 2009. there was nothing on these people at all. yet they were involved in terrorist attacks. and any number of other people who have been stopped operating out of their basement, putting bombs together. yeah, it's a different level of threat. different type of threat. >> what's the line on security and freedom whether it comes to trying to secure americans from a lone wolf without disrupting their freedoms? >> yeah. listen, i don't -- my idea that the right to privacy is when you are in a private setting. if you're out in public, i don't believe you have the right to assume that anything is private. that's why i believe having these cameras on street corners the way they have in london, the way they have in lower manhattan in new york and they're working their
that's why al qaeda has now morphed and in many ways, al qaeda is more dangerous than it was prior to 9/11 because they've metastasized into mini groups and they also have supporters here in the u.s., some of whom they work with over the internet, others are self-radicalized. the times square bomber in 2010. the subway bomber in 2009. there was nothing on these people at all. yet they were involved in terrorist attacks. and any number of other people who have been stopped operating out of their...
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but in a case, they have not found a link to al-qaeda linked group overseas. therefore, no court would necessarily uphold the president as commander in chief designating him as an enemy combatant. legally they would be on shaky ground and if he is deemed an enemy combatant he still has a right to an attorney. he doesn't have to talk unless he wants to and there will are limited means that interrogators have to do so. >> the 48-hour is not a fixed time period. even in military commissions that have not secured any cone vix against anyone since 9/11. there is a right to counsel and there are procedures, too, all of which keep getting tested. >> it has nothing to do with military commissions. >> the question the justice department refuses to answer is whether the clock started ticking in terms of the 48-hour rule after he was taken into custody on friday night. >> gregg: he is not in condition to be interrogated yet. that may soon change. jennifer, thanks very much. we'll have a lot more how hely mai be tried and whether senator feinstein declaring it's unconstit
but in a case, they have not found a link to al-qaeda linked group overseas. therefore, no court would necessarily uphold the president as commander in chief designating him as an enemy combatant. legally they would be on shaky ground and if he is deemed an enemy combatant he still has a right to an attorney. he doesn't have to talk unless he wants to and there will are limited means that interrogators have to do so. >> the 48-hour is not a fixed time period. even in military commissions...
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qaeda, were substantially, you know, substantially supported by al qaeda. and so, coming up with the legal justification to label them enemy combatants, it's a real stretch. >> we've got some sound from senator chuck schumer this morning. i want to play this sound and let's talk about it on the other side. take a listen. >> there's plenty of evidence. they don't need his confession to get him in a trial. so i don't think we have to cross the line and say he should be an enemy combatant, which could be challenged in court. >> goldie, what's even behind this? what's behind this idea that he should be labeled? >> i don't know what's behind it, but i do know that, you know, trying to label this young man as an enemy combatant is akin to trying to hop across the pacific ocean on a pogo stick. it just doesn't mesh. at the end of the day, he is an american citizen. this american land is not a battlefield at this time. there is nothing to support that. and so this young man deserves a trial in a criminal court, in this country. he cannot be tried in a military trib
qaeda, were substantially, you know, substantially supported by al qaeda. and so, coming up with the legal justification to label them enemy combatants, it's a real stretch. >> we've got some sound from senator chuck schumer this morning. i want to play this sound and let's talk about it on the other side. take a listen. >> there's plenty of evidence. they don't need his confession to get him in a trial. so i don't think we have to cross the line and say he should be an enemy...
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they used incidents to cite the fbi letting people slip through their fingers like the al qaeda recruiter, the little rock shooter and the accused ft. hood killer and the alleged american pakistani terrorist so when the congressman who is in charge of the house subcommittee on terrorism is coming out critical of the fbi, doesn't that say there are shoring up opportunities that we need to take very seriously here as the homeland is the battlefield. >> the homeland is a battlefield. there are tens of thousands of people dedicated to keeping us safe. i respect congressman king. he's thoughtful. he clearly is passionate on these issues and he's well versed. we're less than three days after tsarnaev has been brought into custody and he's drawing conclusions and linkages and passing a judgment on the national law enforcement community that i find irresponsible on a monday after a friday capture. i would love to see more facts come out and then we can take a look. when i was doing counterterrorism for a living, we wish we could construct that crystal ball to predict what was going to happen and
they used incidents to cite the fbi letting people slip through their fingers like the al qaeda recruiter, the little rock shooter and the accused ft. hood killer and the alleged american pakistani terrorist so when the congressman who is in charge of the house subcommittee on terrorism is coming out critical of the fbi, doesn't that say there are shoring up opportunities that we need to take very seriously here as the homeland is the battlefield. >> the homeland is a battlefield. there...
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. >> we've decimated al qaeda, gone years without a successful attack. >> and one of the best tools we've had is through law enforcement, through the hundreds of terrorism prosecutions in our courts. >> when terrorism is on the table as a policy matter, right, no one ever argues for cost-benefit analysis, how much should we do. everyone says we should not tolerate a single death from terrorism. here's congressman peter king, essentially, making that argument, that kind of argument yesterday. >> i don't -- my idea that the right to privacy is in a private setting. if you're out in public, i don't think you have the right to assume anything's private. >> you're not concerned we're going to overly secure, make it so going to a sporting event becomes almost impossible? >> ask the parents of the 8-year-old -- ask somebody who's lost somebody in a terrost incident, would you rather have a loved one dead or camera on the telephone pole, i think they'd take the camera. >> that's the argument, right, would you rather have your loved one dead or a camera on a telephone pole, i think they'd take the
. >> we've decimated al qaeda, gone years without a successful attack. >> and one of the best tools we've had is through law enforcement, through the hundreds of terrorism prosecutions in our courts. >> when terrorism is on the table as a policy matter, right, no one ever argues for cost-benefit analysis, how much should we do. everyone says we should not tolerate a single death from terrorism. here's congressman peter king, essentially, making that argument, that kind of...
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canadian authorities say al qaeda is behind the plot. one of the suspects is due in court in a couple of hours. the other suspect had his hearing yesterday. >>> andrea jones vitirez is suing the owner of the plant for millions. she lived in an apartment complex that was destroyed. the blast killed 14 people, injured 200, and destroyed at least 75 homes. >>> a homeowner in san berardino, california, forced out because of a landslide. a broken water line beneath the house saturated the hill side, causing the dirt to slide to the bottom of the held. kabc-tv said that the slide is 40 feet wide, 10 feet deep, leaving the home in danger of collapsing. >>> rand paul issued a statement, saying his stance on drones hasn't changed, but they should be considered an extraordinary lethal situation. paul has been taking heat for comments he made concerning the manhunt for the marathon bombing suspects. here is what he told fox business network. we shouldn't be willy-nilly. but if there is a killer on the loose in a neighborhood, i'm not against drones
canadian authorities say al qaeda is behind the plot. one of the suspects is due in court in a couple of hours. the other suspect had his hearing yesterday. >>> andrea jones vitirez is suing the owner of the plant for millions. she lived in an apartment complex that was destroyed. the blast killed 14 people, injured 200, and destroyed at least 75 homes. >>> a homeowner in san berardino, california, forced out because of a landslide. a broken water line beneath the house...
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this looked to me like columbine as it it did al qaeda. >> when you looked at, you talked to dozens and dozens of terrorists. . you talked to failed suicide bombers. what do you think we should be trying to find out from this young man who survives? >> i think what we often see is somebody who has a very confused identity who gets attracted to a narrative of oppression and humiliation. of course, there's a question why, who introduced them to that narrative? was it on the internet, was it someone in the neighborhood, was it it in dagestan? is there a spider web or is it just really like columbine? >> do you think that self-radicalization can be as strong and as motivating to commit brutal acts of terror as being trained and tutored by somebody in pakistan? you have been to those camps where you have seen these things. i always assumed that self-radicalization, how radical can reading stuff on the internet make you? >> well, unfortunely, i think that reading stuff on the internet can make you very radical. it doesn't make you an accomplished terrorist. what we see is that people who radi
this looked to me like columbine as it it did al qaeda. >> when you looked at, you talked to dozens and dozens of terrorists. . you talked to failed suicide bombers. what do you think we should be trying to find out from this young man who survives? >> i think what we often see is somebody who has a very confused identity who gets attracted to a narrative of oppression and humiliation. of course, there's a question why, who introduced them to that narrative? was it on the internet,...
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this looks more like columbine than al qaeda. two kids who radicalize between themselves in closed circle and go out and commit murder. i would charge these guys with murderer than terrorism. bill: kristen powers, "daily beast" columnist and fox news contributor. rich, how do you come down on that? >> i think that is incredibly foolhardy. on one level there are resonances with columbine. you have two confederates like columbine. the mayhem was more on columbine level than settle 11th level. columbine did not have any idealogical component. this was murder out of sheer hatred. these guys were motivated by radical islam and hatred of the united states. i don't know all the agonized media coverage we don't know their motive yet. we clearly know what their motive was. the rest is finding out details to fill out the story. bill: you call it foolish, kirsten, what do you call the comment? >> i wouldn't go so far to say it is clear about what their motive is. there is a lot of theorizing what the motive is and points in the direction of
this looks more like columbine than al qaeda. two kids who radicalize between themselves in closed circle and go out and commit murder. i would charge these guys with murderer than terrorism. bill: kristen powers, "daily beast" columnist and fox news contributor. rich, how do you come down on that? >> i think that is incredibly foolhardy. on one level there are resonances with columbine. you have two confederates like columbine. the mayhem was more on columbine level than settle...
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this does not make them al qaeda but perhaps they sympathize or at least tamerlan did with that cause. we're being cautious here. it is a link on a page. there are number of links on a page authorities believe was tied to tamerlan. they are looking at all of this. it they're also seeing that perhaps the 26-year-old was in fact more of a leader in this. and the 19-year-old less of one. we talked about, 19-year-old dzhokhar tsnaraev coming to the country with family in roughly 2002, maybe early 2003. we can't confirm when tamerlan came into the country. it may be a separate time, actually. we also can't confirm whether these two men may have exited the country to do overseas training because that is a phrase, as jennifer griffin mentioned earlier that continues to come up with law enforcement authorities, overseas training, overnight and over the past few days. >> great point. that is a great point there, bret. thank you for adding that too because that is some of the mystery of the story. how does this murderous scheme, how does this get hatched? i agree with your observation, if you l
this does not make them al qaeda but perhaps they sympathize or at least tamerlan did with that cause. we're being cautious here. it is a link on a page. there are number of links on a page authorities believe was tied to tamerlan. they are looking at all of this. it they're also seeing that perhaps the 26-year-old was in fact more of a leader in this. and the 19-year-old less of one. we talked about, 19-year-old dzhokhar tsnaraev coming to the country with family in roughly 2002, maybe early...
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, and i'm using the term al-qaeda because chechen jihaddists are connected to al-qaeda. al-qaeda whose strategy as we read in inspire magazine, as we read on-line, in the chat rooms, picks and choose what kind of nationality that can fit with the land, with the country they're going to send them to. so the fact that these persons could be from india, syria, chechnya or american born is irrelevant at this point in time. what is relevant is are they jihaddists? too they have a connection internationally? >> gretchen: all right. walid, interesting insight from somebody who knows, expert. if you would, please stick around. we're going to go live to bill hemmer who has been live in boston for us all morning of the you have new information? >> yes. just a little bit here. i want to add what's happening in watertown. the boston police department has done a pretty good job over the past five days of alerting the public by way of their twitter feed when they need to get news out. they just sent this out minutes ago. a community alert, door to door search for a s watertown continu
, and i'm using the term al-qaeda because chechen jihaddists are connected to al-qaeda. al-qaeda whose strategy as we read in inspire magazine, as we read on-line, in the chat rooms, picks and choose what kind of nationality that can fit with the land, with the country they're going to send them to. so the fact that these persons could be from india, syria, chechnya or american born is irrelevant at this point in time. what is relevant is are they jihaddists? too they have a connection...
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defined as the taliban, al qaeda and affiliated groups. the question i have regarding this case, is there any affiliation between these two individuals and the groups i just named to allow enemy combatant status to be conferred. >> we are listening to a presser from senator graham. he takes issue with tigs ma's decision not to declare dzhokhar tsarnaev an enemy combatant. earlier today, jay carney at the daily briefing for the white house says that the suspect will not be treated as an enemy combatant. they will prosecute this terrorist go their words, through civilian system of justice under u.s. law. we saw within the last hour, the charges filed against dzhokhar tsarnaev, the 19-year-old suspected bomber. he has been charged with using a weapon of mass destruction against persons and property at the boston marathon resulting in the deaths of three people and injuries to more. our own pete williams is looking over the charges and getting more information. meanwhile we have new information regarding the parents of the two suspected bott b
defined as the taliban, al qaeda and affiliated groups. the question i have regarding this case, is there any affiliation between these two individuals and the groups i just named to allow enemy combatant status to be conferred. >> we are listening to a presser from senator graham. he takes issue with tigs ma's decision not to declare dzhokhar tsarnaev an enemy combatant. earlier today, jay carney at the daily briefing for the white house says that the suspect will not be treated as an...
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here's republican congressman louis goe mert of texas on wednesday. >> we know al qaeda has camps with the drug cartels on the other side of the mexican border, people are being trained to come in and act hispanic when they're radical islamists. >> chuck grassley from iowa had this to say on immigration reform on friday. >> given the events of this week, it's important for us to understand the gaps and loopholes in our immigration system. while we don't yet know the immigration status of people who terrorized the communities in massachusetts when we find out it will help shed light on the weaknesses of our system. >> actually, senator, maybe the weakness is in trying to tie terrorism to immigration. at the table, msnbc contributor and georgetown university professor, michael dyson and ari melber. >> former south carolina gop chair katon dawson and za here ali. gang of 8 in the midst of all this, gang of 8 puts out the immigration report. marco rubio does a kind of here's the talking points from it. border control, border control is the fundamental thing that we hear coming out of what
here's republican congressman louis goe mert of texas on wednesday. >> we know al qaeda has camps with the drug cartels on the other side of the mexican border, people are being trained to come in and act hispanic when they're radical islamists. >> chuck grassley from iowa had this to say on immigration reform on friday. >> given the events of this week, it's important for us to understand the gaps and loopholes in our immigration system. while we don't yet know the...
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we also know chechnya has a history of providing al qaeda fighters in afghanistan. we have to see, was it a family matter? a close circle of friends? was there training overseas? i think we always make a mistake trying to ridicule the weapons that terrorists use. people i've spoken to, this is a pretty sophisticated weapon that these two put together so they've done all of that on their own so they have got the heavy duty weapons they have all on their own and automatic weapons that they have at their disposal and always people helping them and i know even though we felt there was no chatter beforehand, maybe looking back as we go back find there were signal, and i think, this is the main message we get is that i don't think we can expect in the future to getting overseas intelligence and finding very much chatter. i think the attacks will be carried out by people who are nate of-born americans or people living here legally, under the radar screen about no known terrorist kecks and that's why it is so important that locals have an intelligence presence on the ground
we also know chechnya has a history of providing al qaeda fighters in afghanistan. we have to see, was it a family matter? a close circle of friends? was there training overseas? i think we always make a mistake trying to ridicule the weapons that terrorists use. people i've spoken to, this is a pretty sophisticated weapon that these two put together so they've done all of that on their own so they have got the heavy duty weapons they have all on their own and automatic weapons that they have...
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these were all domesticop, renfiatn.bviously had a al qaeda reazes it's vy ey have been using people already here. we also have people self-motivated over the internet. they become se-radicalized or coul b someone from white supremacist group. ey, again, eiry domestic or it coulde a combination of the two, as said, with islamic jihadist, both domestic and having a foreign connection. all of this is being looked at, but certainly between now and 9/11, now, people knowctly what to do. ther is a protocol in place, what measures to take,nd move quickly and effectively and work very well together. totalsynchronization. >> we don't know who did this. we spect we will know at some point. peter ki, congssman peter king, thank you for sharing your expertise with us. we appreciateit. >> thank you. >> ahead o "starting point" we continue to follow this unfolding investigation of this terror attacknst, were tracking other delin stories. we'll talk about how theto maetar rctg to this. will there bereverb rations? we'll tell you about it, next. >> announcer: did you know the are secret black marke
these were all domesticop, renfiatn.bviously had a al qaeda reazes it's vy ey have been using people already here. we also have people self-motivated over the internet. they become se-radicalized or coul b someone from white supremacist group. ey, again, eiry domestic or it coulde a combination of the two, as said, with islamic jihadist, both domestic and having a foreign connection. all of this is being looked at, but certainly between now and 9/11, now, people knowctly what to do. ther is a...
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and in, al qaeda manual that is one much the ways it is described you can make a bomb have more impact, have more effect. bill: another point here too, mayor, what is your gut tell you? are they close? do they have something? do they have a lot or are they a long way away at the home? what do you think? >> honestly bill, i can't tell. i don't have a gut about how close they are. they could be closer than they make it seem with the appeals that they're making because they are trying to hold things closer to the vest. i actually can't tell. i have, i have a hunch but it is only a hunch and i could be proven wrong. it sound to me like this is not heavily orchestrated overseas. i would be surprised if this were directed internationally. i wouldn't be surprised if there were some connections between the person or persons who did this and some international organization but i would be surprised if this were orchestrated overseas because i think by now we would have collected intelligence that we could have pieced through this if this was being directed from pakistan, afghanistan or someplace
and in, al qaeda manual that is one much the ways it is described you can make a bomb have more impact, have more effect. bill: another point here too, mayor, what is your gut tell you? are they close? do they have something? do they have a lot or are they a long way away at the home? what do you think? >> honestly bill, i can't tell. i don't have a gut about how close they are. they could be closer than they make it seem with the appeals that they're making because they are trying to...
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the fact is whether it's al qaeda or domestic terrorist groups or hezbollah, all of these groups have used different sorts of motus operenda. it will be a different lead for investigators in boston and washington, but beyond that, it's hard to go much farther. >> i thought the white house's response yesterday was interesting. not what the president said, but what the president didn't say. >> right. the president did not refer to the attacks as an act of terrorism. but later, a white house official said, quote, this. any event with multiple explosive devices as this appears to be is clearly an act of terror and will be approached as an act of terror. however, we don't yet know who carried out this attack. and a thorough investigation will have to determine whether it was planned and carried out by a terrorist group, foreign, or domestic. >> you know, the boston globe's kevin cullen, i thought wrote a great column yesterday about this in response to it. talked about a perfect marathon and then, of course, the unimaginable. >> this is how bad this is. he writes, i went out monday night a
the fact is whether it's al qaeda or domestic terrorist groups or hezbollah, all of these groups have used different sorts of motus operenda. it will be a different lead for investigators in boston and washington, but beyond that, it's hard to go much farther. >> i thought the white house's response yesterday was interesting. not what the president said, but what the president didn't say. >> right. the president did not refer to the attacks as an act of terrorism. but later, a white...
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while the design experts say is al qaeda 101, investigators are baffled. no individual or group has taken responsibility. >> the person who did this is someone's friend, neighbor, co-worker or relative. someone knows who did this. >> reporter: so the fbi heavily relying on the public. they say more than 2,000 tips have already come in. and they are following up on each and every one of them. john, and diana. >> marci, 24 hours ago we were talking about a potential suspect. investigators at a suburban boston apartment. any update on that? >> we were told investigators were questioning a 20-year-old student. investigators aren't giving us any information about that. a source tells abc news it appears the tips that led investigators to this 20-year-old and to this apartment didn't pan out. so at this point it appears he is not considered a person of interest. but investigators say they are not ruling anything out at this point. >> marci, the pressure cooker bombs, what are you hearing from intelligence and how -- what's the latest on these? >> well this is so
while the design experts say is al qaeda 101, investigators are baffled. no individual or group has taken responsibility. >> the person who did this is someone's friend, neighbor, co-worker or relative. someone knows who did this. >> reporter: so the fbi heavily relying on the public. they say more than 2,000 tips have already come in. and they are following up on each and every one of them. john, and diana. >> marci, 24 hours ago we were talking about a potential suspect....